I know that they are conditional friends. I also know I will make more friends. I have said goodbye to some and upset the elders by telling JW friends that I don't believe the WTS any more. I have sent a few texts and have been told that I am texting people and planting doubt. Just Saying goodbye, Jehovahs blessing is seen as planting doubts because I choose to leave..(well I can't help that!) The elders are panicking, announcements to warn the congregation this week. I refuse to disappear without saying goodbye. Even if their love is conditional, mine isn't... We have our DA letter ready..may send it if pushed.(was hoping to avoid a complete shun,daft really) xxx Strawberry Cake
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Did you get to say Goodbye...?
by strawberry cake ini know that they are conditional friends.
i also know i will make more friends.
i have said goodbye to some and upset the elders by telling jw friends that i don't believe the wts any more.
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Is it better to have loved and lost, than to never have loved at all ?
by strawberry cake inin other words from the jw point of view, only marry another jw.
he also quoted some anonymous person who said that.. "what is worst than being single is being married to the wrong person"....personally, my view is "it is better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?"..
the wts are allowing many, mainly sisters to live lonely lives because of this directive to only marry other jws.
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sorry.. I should have said your friend... Is she an unbaptized publisher yet?( the step before baptism)or is she baptized? if she is either, she will be accountable. If found to have a worldly boyfriend. Her parents, if strict JWs, will be very upset. If she is neither baptised or an unbaptised publisher she could just brazen it out and stand her ground. However there could be 'sparks'. She could keep it all a secret but You would have to hide, because in the JW community there are'spies'everywhere! xxx Strawberry Cake
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Am I the only one that didnt realize about the GB?
by yourmomma inhere is a question for you.
i'll give a little back ground.
i was raised in the witness organization however in about 1993 i encountered much hypocrisy and left for about 3 years.
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When I got baptized in 1995 I believed I was dedicating my life to Jehovah, not to old men in Bethel. I thought these men were humble seekers of truth..nothing more.
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Jehovah's Witnesses Are NOT Conscientious & They Don't Really Care!
by minimus inwitnesses try to make it sound as though they are very very conscientious people.
they care about you, your spiritual welfare, your everlasting welfare....but nothing could be further from the truth!
if they truly cared, they would see to it that they reached people to give them the lifesaving truth.
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Well, in my congregation we had very zealous sisters who where regularly out on service and took their commission to preach very seriously..I was one of them. In all weathers, we were there...kids in tow... What I noticed however, was the fact that 90% of the brothers/including elders, didn't have this same zeal. It was a waste of time passing on calls to them, as very often they did nt follow them up, or took too long to get there. It was difficult to pin the brothers down to take on interesting ,but difficult calls. If the house was dirty, if the householder argumentative, a scholarly penticostal, a muslim, an alcoholic..the brothers would somehow excuse themselves of the responsibility. Also, whilst from the platform they encouraged pioneering and part-time work ..Most of the elders had top jobs, a big house and went on expensive holidays... When I 'turned off' the WT, it dawned on me.."They don't really believe it all" Their actions proved this... xxx Strawberry Cake
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I left after 9 years ...
by sacolton ini just disassociated myself after nine long years in the wtbts after researching the history of the wtbts and its founders and their lies, false prophecies and mind-control doctrines.
read my profile for more about that.
anyway, i'm glad there is a wonderful support group for those who have escaped the grasp of the wtbts and enjoy life again without the constant fear that the wtbts instills at every meeting.
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Welcome to the forum! xxx Strawberry Cake
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Is it better to have loved and lost, than to never have loved at all ?
by strawberry cake inin other words from the jw point of view, only marry another jw.
he also quoted some anonymous person who said that.. "what is worst than being single is being married to the wrong person"....personally, my view is "it is better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?"..
the wts are allowing many, mainly sisters to live lonely lives because of this directive to only marry other jws.
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Dear Takethat it is just plain awful. How do they get away with this? So many wonderful, spiritual people, who just want to serve God and do what's right are having their lives ruined by the evil directives from the GB... I too know of someone who committed suicide. She was 44. She had hoped and prayed that she would one day find some to marry. She was a kind, loving person, who would take time to visit sick one, talk to the children and would make a point of saying hello to as many people as she could at the meetings. She would also, often arrange restaurant trips. She was well loved..(I thought)..She took an overdose ... When she died..the elders played the whole thing down. There was a lot of 'whispering' going on ..People wanted to know what happened. So one elder said from the platform...."It doesn't matter how she died. She's dead!!" I couldn't believe how insensitive he was! They were not even sure how to handle this suicide and were very slow to give comfort to her family. The family were very hurt by this...After the funeral, she seemed to be forgotten so quickly. It was weird. I feel SO grateful to have wised up. xxx Strawberry cake
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Is it better to have loved and lost, than to never have loved at all ?
by strawberry cake inin other words from the jw point of view, only marry another jw.
he also quoted some anonymous person who said that.. "what is worst than being single is being married to the wrong person"....personally, my view is "it is better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?"..
the wts are allowing many, mainly sisters to live lonely lives because of this directive to only marry other jws.
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Dear xig28...Welcome to the board..I haven't been here long myself..The support found here is invaluable. With regards your question.....................once a jw is baptized can they actually have a relationship with a non-jw or it isnt possible? because i have asked a few people and they say i can have a relation with her, but others say i cant? what is it? In my experience, she can do what she likes, but there are consequences. She will be counseled by the elders to 'bring her to her senses' She will be prevented from answering up at the meeting, possibly after a private or a public reproof. She will also be considered bad association, and possibly will find herself being shunned by members of the congregation. Her reputation will be ruined. If you visit the hall with her you will probably notice the brothers and sisters are non too friendly..(if they know you are not a brother.This all depends on the type of brothers and sisters at the hall.) So, really it also depends on how your girlfriend views her possition in the organization. All the best to both. xxx Strawberry Cake
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Is it better to have loved and lost, than to never have loved at all ?
by strawberry cake inin other words from the jw point of view, only marry another jw.
he also quoted some anonymous person who said that.. "what is worst than being single is being married to the wrong person"....personally, my view is "it is better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?"..
the wts are allowing many, mainly sisters to live lonely lives because of this directive to only marry other jws.
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Dear Sonny60...........This cult of an organization, even tells you who you can or cannot love....scary. xxx Strawberry Cake
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Is it better to have loved and lost, than to never have loved at all ?
by strawberry cake inin other words from the jw point of view, only marry another jw.
he also quoted some anonymous person who said that.. "what is worst than being single is being married to the wrong person"....personally, my view is "it is better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?"..
the wts are allowing many, mainly sisters to live lonely lives because of this directive to only marry other jws.
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A JW speaker said in his talk, that the brothers and sisters should only marry in the lord. In other words from the JW point of view, only marry another JW. He also quoted some anonymous person who said that.. "what is worst than being single is being married to the wrong person"....Personally, my view is "it is better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?"..
The WTS are allowing many, mainly sisters to live lonely lives because of this directive to only marry other JWS. As there are more sisters than brothers this is grossly unfair! (especially if the sister craves to be a mother) I know a young lady who married a 'worldly man' against all counsel and now has a beautiful daughter. She said that she could not wait for a brother as she knew many sisters who were prettier than her, so what chance did she have. Her 'worldly' husband is very handsom! She is happy with her marriage. She was then shunned after a special talk. She still goes to meetings and has to sit through talks like the one I,m mentioning...The more I pull away..the more Wrong I can see.
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Do the Governing body know they are being dishonest?
by strawberry cake ini wonder if anyone has any ideas on this.
who, what is behind the wts.
is it just men genuinely making mistakes but are sincerely trying to serve god?
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kurtbethel...quote..There is rarely any hint of a humble seeker after truth to be found in a WT publication. The literature is the smoking gun here, and has fingerprints all over it that say perpetrator I have this gut feeling that what you say may be true. If only the brothers would rise up and demand answers! xxx Strawberry Cake